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如何知道FPGA输出端口的电平信号上升和下降时间?

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在我的FPGA设计中,我需要获得FPGA输出端口电平信号上升和下降时间的信息。
如何知道FPGA输出端口的电平信号上升和下降时间?
如果你能给我建议如何解决这个问题,那就太棒了!
YHM

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Hi

In my FPGA design, I need to get the imformation of FPGA output port level signal rising and falling time.

How can I know the level signal rising and falling time of FPGA output port??

It would be great, if you could give me suggestions how to solve this problem!

yhm

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张颖

2019-7-8 07:30:09
在无负载(开路引脚)的情况下,相同电压和IO标准的上升/下降时间相同,相同类型的FPGA具有相同的速率。
如果我们通过PCB轨道连接负载,则结果上升/下降时间会根据负载而变化。
IBIS模拟是找到合成上升/下降时间的好方法。
要进行IBIS模拟,用户必须从XILINX网站下载相关的IBIS模型。
然后,用户必须通过采用特定的FPGA IBIS模型,连接IC IBIS模型和传输线(TL)模型,在SI工具中进行SI(信号完整性)仿真。
为此,SI模拟XILINX为每个设备提供了IBIS模型。
以下链接提供了适用于Xilinx器件的IBIS模型:http://www.xilinx.com/support/download/index.htm
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With no load (Open pin) the rise/ fall times are same for same voltage & IO standards with same slew rate in the same type FPGA .
 
If we connect load through PCB track then the resultant rise/ fall times changes based on load. IBIS simulations is good workaround to find resultant rise/fall times.
 
To do  IBIS simulations user has to download relevant IBIS model from XILINX web site. Then user has to conduct SI (Signal Integrity) simulations in SI tools by taking that particular FPGA IBIS model, interfacing IC IBIS model and Transmission Line (TL) models . To do that SI simulations XILINX provided IBIS model for each device.  
 

  • The IBIS models for Xilinx devices available in the following link 
    http://www.xilinx.com/support/download/index.htm  
 
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李刚

2019-7-8 07:42:03
这些将取决于驱动信号走线/导线上的特性阻抗,电容和所有其他负载。一旦您了解所有这些,您就可以使用Xilinx提供的IBIS模型来计算(通常通过合适的仿真工具)什么
上升/下降时间是。
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模拟,它不会在板上工作。“

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These will depend on the characteristic impedence, capacitance, and all other loads on the signal trace/wire being driven.

Once you know all those, you can use the IBIS models that Xilinx provide to calculate (usually via a suitable simulation tool) what the rise/fall times are.

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h1654155275.5764

2019-7-8 07:57:01
谢谢
对不起,我没有表达清楚;
如果我们的示波器具有无限宽频谱,我们可以直接将其连接到FPGA芯片的输出端口而无需负载。
示波器屏幕上出现的上升和下降时间是多少?
10ns的?
YHM

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Thank you
 
I am sorry that I did not express clearly;
 
If we have an oscilloscope with Infinitely wide spectrum, we connect it to the output port of FPGA chip directly without load.
 
What is the rising and falling time that dispayed on the oscilloscope screen?    <1ns ,1ns-10nns or >10ns?
 
yhm
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黄淳

2019-7-8 08:13:30
yhm写道:
谢谢
对不起,我没有表达清楚;
如果我们的示波器具有无限宽频谱,我们可以直接将其连接到FPGA芯片的输出端口而无需负载。
示波器屏幕上出现的上升和下降时间是多少?
10ns的?
YHM
应小于10 ns。
当然,对于未端接的线,线长度很重要。
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yhm wrote:
Thank you
 
I am sorry that I did not express clearly;
 
If we have an oscilloscope with Infinitely wide spectrum, we connect it to the output port of FPGA chip directly without load.
 
What is the rising and falling time that dispayed on the oscilloscope screen?    <1ns ,1ns-10nns or >10ns?
 
yhm
Should be less than 10 ns. Of course, with an unterminated line, the line length matters.
----------------------------Yes, I do this for a living.
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